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- Recording live Auto-Tune vocals with Antares AT 8 in Logic Pro X -
- Logic pro x input monitoring delay free
There is most likely a another plugin you're not aware of thats needing the buffer, or your buffer setting is too high, or you have an interface issue OR you have noticed there's a BUG in AT8 where Live Mode doesn't always engage even when it says it has when you copy channel to channel etc. Turn it off and back on again and it's fixed.
Personally, I notice a lag even when recording through the computer at a buffer size of samples, even with no autotune. I'd always use direct monitoring for voice if available. For other sources where you're not pitching against head resonances, it's less critical. Some will notice, some won't. I really think there's a whole generation growing up never having had a great headphone mix with no latency. I look at in context. If a singer is trying to hear themselves auto-tune'd as they record, I don't expect them to be the same person that can recognize and be concerned by a 8ms delay in the cans.
This isn't jazz, it's Young Thug. It still remains that lower latency is better - people can sometimes subconsciously perform better. We're referring to something different. The 10ms delay you get with a buffer setting of isn't anywhere audible enough to be called "lag" and it won't "throw off" the best or worst vocalist.
Top gear with a buffer setting of 64 and no extra plugins still gives probably 5 ms delay I'd gues.. And it don't get much better than that. If you hear lag you either have bad settings, driver issue, or need a gear upgrade. I'm not saying that the delay that is technically there is in-audible; I'm saying it's no where near long enough to be called lag. I'd bet you'd get random answers if you tested people on blind test..
I was taught you basically should monitor analog always if possible, and always set things up that way, unless the singer needs the FX chain, hence this thread As far as being able to monitor on input in Logic Pro X, there might be some mysteries to uncover as others mentioned above..
I don't think it's other plugins slowing it down because I went through the session and disabled basically everything that could've been a bloat to see if that fixed the lag and it did not.
Perhaps the Orion 32 drivers are the problem. I'll try some tests on some other interfaces I have access to and see. I guess I must be weird in the sense That I don't find a need to monitor myself when rapping, then again I used a digital mic for quite some time and it was never an option because of the lag. For anyone that was following this -- I never figured out a solution. Top of the line Macbook with an Orion 32 and it just doesn't work to use input monitoring with Auto-Tune 8.
A Fak. I don't remeber the exact number but I know its under 8ms roundtrip. I found that if the track ouput is sent to an aux track or is sending to a buss fx it tends to add more latency in Logic. Dunno maybe its just me.. I find the input monitoring pretty decent on a 13" macbook pro with a 2i2 with low latency plugins for most vocal duties but when it comes to rap vocals I'll just turn off monitoring for the most part. When recording audio or playing a software instrument in Logic Pro, you might experience a slight delay between playing or singing a note and when you hear the sound from your speakers or headphones.
This delay is called input monitoring latency. A variety of factors contribute to input monitoring latency, including:. You can also manage latency caused by plug-ins using Low Latency Mode while recording. Set the sample rate for your project when you first create it. Higher sample rates result in less input monitoring latency. However, projects with higher sample rates create larger audio files, which can increase the load on the processor and the disk of your Mac.
Plug-ins also require more processing power at higher sample rates. However, smaller buffer sizes require more processing power, which can cause system overload alerts.
Roundtrip latency is the total amount of input monitoring latency you'll experience from audio input to audio output. Certain plug-ins can contribute to input monitoring latency, particularly dynamics plug-ins with look-ahead functions.
If you're using these kinds of plug-ins in a project, you can minimize the latency they produce while recording using Low Latency Mode. Low Latency Mode bypasses plug-ins as needed, so the amount of latency doesn't exceed the Limit setting in the Plug-in Latency section of the General Audio preferences of Logic Pro.
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